GM. Hallo Katie – welcome to Gateway. I'd like to start by
asking you how you how long you've been making your living as a novelist?
KF Hi! Oh crumbs, it’s a good long while. I had my first two books published (by
different publishers I must add) in 1972.
In those happy days a £100 advance was sufficient to take two adults and
three kids for a fortnight’s holiday in Ibiza…
how times have changed! Fortunately,
advances have changed too. So the short
answer would be 34years.
GM. How would describe your books? They're more than
"romantic novels", and Josephine Cox, who was on TV a while back,
said her books were described as "romantic novels" but were in fact
part of the tapestry of life. I've read romantic fiction from a very early age,
Denise Robbins and so on, but I agree with Josephine – your books, like hers,
are more than just "romance". I'd be interested to hear how you
describe them.
KF I agree that
they are more than romantic novels; I like the adventure part of them, which
usually happens because your two main characters get parted in some way. I think they are more or less a slice of the
character’s lives… once I get started my characters take over… if they don’t
want to marry each other then they jolly well won’t, and the surprised author
has to look around and hope desperately that the story will sort itself
out. It always does!
GM. What did you like to read when you were growing up?
Did any particular titles influence your writing career?
KF I read anything I could lay hands on, including sauce
bottles, advertisements… Enid Blyton, E. Nesbit, M. Pardoe (the Bunkle books),
then on to Dick Francis, Mary Stewart, Ngaio Marsh, Elizabeth Goudge et al. The book which influenced me most was
definitely I CAPTURE THE CASTLE by Dodie Smith.
I still think it is in a class by itself. Lovely stuff.
GM. Was there anyone who really inspired you or encouraged
you to write when you were growing up?
KF Pamela Frankau’s
book on how to write was encouraging, and my parents’ influence was also a
factor. My mother wrote, though she only
got published as a teenager; my father wrote rather good poetry but was very
shy about it and destroyed the lot just before his death.
GM. How did you become interested in wartime Britain? Was it
conversations with your family? You write about the time as though you have
first-hand experience, though that could have come with good research, of
course.
KF I was nine when
the war ended and since I was evacuated in 1941 my memories of the bombing etc.,
have to be awoken by research, by
talking to people who were there and by imagination I suppose you could call
it. A cousin of mine was buried by her
house for almost two days but will never talk of it. However, there are others who remember
brilliantly and are eager to tell.
GM. What led to the publication of your first novel? Did
you send it to an agent? How long before it was accepted, and do you have
unpublished manuscripts you tried to get placed before your first acceptance?
KF I published my first
novel because in 1971 there was a postal strike which lasted at least six
weeks. At that time I had been earning
my living (sort of) by writing shorts for the mags, radio etc., and suddenly my
source of income dried up. A friend who
wrote historical novels suggested that I should stop moaning about the post
office and spend the time writing a book so I did. I sent it straight to my friend’s publisher
(I should add that she dared me to write a novel, telling me afterwards that
she was sure I would fail, being used to the snappier length of short stories
and articles) and they accepted it within 3 weeks. I then wrote another book, sent it to the same
publishers, who rejected it. Surprised
and hurt (what an admission, but it is true because I knew the second book was
better than the first) I took another friend’s advice and whizzed it off to yet
another publisher who not only accepted it within a fortnight but paid me £500
advance, a fortune! And no, I have no
unpublished MSS lying in cupboards – wish I had!
GM. What was the inspiration for ORPHANS OF THE STORM? I
know you recently travelled to Australiarecently – did you perhaps meet people there with stories to tell about wartime
romances?
KF Orphans of the
Storm came about because my Australian son was telling me about his awful
experience of near-death when in hospital.
It sort of got into my imagination, and I used it to start the
book… Then of course Tony introduced me
to a great many people, who told me a great many things about Australia during
the war and so on… it’s lovely when a story just grows, expands, begins to
write itself, which this one did.
GM. Are any of your characters based loosely on you,
either as a young girl or as a fully paid-up adult? When I write, I always try
to introduce a character with my beliefs and traits, though not necessarily my
physical attributes. Do you do the same?
KF I’m ashamed to
admit that though I KNOW very well that everyone (including both my parents and
numerous aunts, uncles and cousins) all
smoked like factory chimneys during the war, I can never let my characters
follow suit. I have never smoked, the
smell makes me feel sick, and so yes, there are certain resemblances! Also I could never harm a dog, cat or indeed
any animal, so they have a fairly good time in my books!
GM. You travelled to Australiarecently. Have you found
travel to be any more difficult or dangerous since the turn of the century and
the ugly face of terrorism?
KF Well, I can’t
say I climb aboard a plane with any more fear now than before but that may be
because I hate flying and am constantly nervous that the damned thing will tip
up if I make an incautious move!
Actually the flight to Oz was good for me because it was so long that I
grew quite blasé and didn’t wave the yellow flag (or whatever) when going to Gibraltar to visit my eldest son earlier this year.
GM. Staying with Orphans of the Storm, the book alternates
between WW1 and the second world war. What went into your decision to structure
the book in this way?
KF Again, the
structuring of it was not exactly intentional, it came because I’d done some
research into the first WW and realised that their knowledge of blood
transfusions, in 1916, was pretty sketchy, so it was possible (indeed, it
happened quite often) that someone could die for lack of a transfusion, or live
because someone was quick off the mark and knew that such things were possible.
GM. Can you give us a sneak peek in the next book, the one
you're working on now? Or are you like J K Rowling, keeping quiet until the
very last moment?
KF The book I’m working on now isn’t the next one to come
out; that is called LITTLE GIRL LOST and is set in the early years of the last
century – starts in December 1910 and ends around 1920. It has two main female characters, Sylvie who
is very lovely and somewhat self-centred, and Maeve, who was crippled by a fall
when stealing a ride behind a horse and cart.
Sylvie lives in Liverpool, Maeve in Dublin, but they meet up quite early on, then
part… and the child who is lost is the
daughter of one and the darling of the other.
Simple! The one I’m working on now doesn’t have a title yet, but
has two very different settings, a family living over a greengrocer’s shop on
Heyworth Street in Liverpool and the
Brewster family, who live and work on a farm in Hereford both before and during
WW2. Sometimes it is quite difficult to
get your two characters together naturally, not artificially, and I find war is
a great leveller from that point of view.
People were moved all over the country, they met and sometimes fell in
love, then were dragged apart as Command whisked them from one theatre of war
to another.
GM. Can we talk about the creative process of book
writing? When you begin a new book, do you outline the plot first? Do you
always know what's ultimately going to happen?
KF No, I don’t
outline the plot first, or indeed at all, for probably the first third of the
book. Sometimes I have a picture in my
head, sometimes the end is absolutely clear – I just don’t know how the devil I
am going to arrive at it. Sometimes I
get it wrong, suddenly realise it, and have to rewrite large chunks. I hate that worst of all, it is upsetting and
never used to happen to me, but I’ve written a total of 76 books under
different names and it is very hard not to do something you have already done
before, and when you realise it you have to make changes.
GM. What is your writing process like? Can you take us
through a typical writing day?
KF I used to write
all day, particularly in the evenings.
I have four children and at one stage had two other children whose
mother left them in my care, which was why writing during the day was pretty
hard but evenings were ideal. Then my
kids grew up and left home and I began a far easier time because I could write
whenever I felt like it. Then ten years
ago I got ME/CFS and life became horribly difficult, and no sooner had I begun
to come to terms with what I could and could not do than a doctor looking over
his shoulder ran into our car, waiting to join a major road, and the whiplash
which resulted made it impossible for me to type. After some time I advertised for a secretary
and to my own astonishment, discovered I could dictate, so now I “talk” the
book, Jo, my secretary, types it straight onto the computer, then Brian, my
husband, reads back to me what I’ve done and I correct, change, fiddle with it
until it begins to sound right. I should
explain that ME/CFS affects one’s muscles and in my case, my eyes won’t focus
on print, or the screen, or the telly for that matter. Makes research hellishly difficult but Brian
and Jo read me the bits I need to know about and we manage somehow. Now I “write” for three hours, sometimes longer,
each weekday morning, then after a couple of hours off we do any research etc.,
and then we shop, visit, play with grandchildren… and my biggest luxury is
audio books, of which I have a great many.
They are lifesavers.
GM. How would you say you've changed as a writer since the
publication of your first book?
KF The people about
whom I write are very much more real; I could meet them in the street and know
them instantly. I frequently change
viewpoints so that you don’t only have the girl’s impression of what is going
on but also those of what you might call “bit players”. I am very much more professional in my
approach to writing and have more confidence in my own ability to tackle
different writing tasks. I acknowledge
publicity and signings etc., are important and absolutely LOVE meeting readers,
partly because it is fun but more, alas, because several of them have helped me
with information, with stories and anecdotes, and have become good friends, if
only of the pen variety.
GM. When you're not writing, how do you relax and have
fun? I know you have dogs – anything else that helps you to enjoy life?
KF As I said
earlier, audio books and the radio are my big relaxants, but dogs… oh
dear! We had four, but dear old Zak died
last October and we’ve not replaced him.
We have a gorgeous ginger cat but it’s not the same. My daughter has three huge horses but I can’t
ride any more and feeding them the odd lump of sugar isn’t the same. But I love swimming (in the sea, can’t manage
in pools because swimming in fresh water takes more energy than I possess) and
we go abroad two or three times a year, which is great. I have a son and daughter-in-law in Spainso we visit them quite often, and the son, daughter-in-law and wonderful baby
grand-daughter in Sydney Oz; see them rather less often, that awful
journey!
GM. Finally, what would be your advice to aspiring authors
writing about life and relationships as you do?
KF Read, Read,
Read! Study other people’s styles,
compare them with your own. See how
cleverly the great writers gradually bring out
the personality of their characters.
Always remember that most novels are a bit like icebergs; you should have done enough research to cover
your subject but such research should show only a tiny amount to the reader –
the amount that matters – because there is nothing more off-putting than a
writer who wants to ‘educate’ their unfortunate reader. Editors hate being lectured. Some people will tell you that they despise
‘easy reads’ but I’ve always thought this is a sign of ignorance since we
should all strive to produce easy reads; we are in the entertainment business
after all.
GM. Katie, it's been an enormous pleasure for me to
feature you and your books in Gateway – I hope you become a regular visitor,
and keep us entertained with those fabulous books! Thanks very much. Paul
KF It has been a
pleasure. Unfortunately since ME I have
been unable to focus on a screen so could not look at the web-site myself but I
know my husband found it very interesting.